Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain discussion

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Lavitz, Sep 2, 2015.

  1. vengvong

    vengvong Limit Breaker

    LMAO Apparently you can knock Quiet out during the fight by sending in a supply drop and dropping it onto her.

    Makes me wonder if you get something extra by using the Water Pistol on the Man on fire.
     
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  2. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    Something like this?
     
  3. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member

    Okay, I've just been doing sideops today. I think I'm improving. I'm getting the hang of sneaking around a bit more.

    I have done side ops 1, 2, 5, 11, 27, 51, 61. I don't really know if I should mark these with spoilers, because there's not really anything that important to the plot, but I suppose I will to stay on the safe side.

    Do they want me to extract an actual sheep? I interrogated and fulton'd most of the soldiers in the area and no sign of the "lost sheep". I searched for a little bit longer but couldn't find anything so I left.

    Okay, so I am supposed to nail 35 targets. I only found 12 of them though. I don't see how it's even remotely realistic to find all 35 of them without looking it up online or doing it over and over memorizing the different target locations. They seem to be spread all throughout the base, when I saw the mission I was expecting them all to appear on that one platform at the top and for it to just require quick timing.

    I don't know if this is really mission dependent but I also fultonned the dog, but it hasn't been available in missions for me yet like the horse is. I'm guessing it'll "grow up" at some point but I'm not completely sure. I still don't have access to the medical bay, I'm assuming it'll be unlocked after doing more missions.
     
  4. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    Yes
    Let me guess, R&D Target Practice? That one is tough.

    So the Man on Fire was Volgin after all, interesting.

    I also just learned something interesting from a tape...
    Strangelove is Otacon's mother?! Didn't expect that, sucks that she killed herself though, I was hoping to see her in this game.
     
  5. Lucario

    Lucario Gamer

    Already finished all the Story missions yesterday. Love the gameplay in this one the most. Maybe my opinion will change since this one feels shiny new to me right now.

    My favorite random moment of the game is when i accidentally alerted guards then reacted by taking one of them hostage, causing all of the guards to cease fire. Took the guard up stairs with me while they started to group up in front of the stairway and
    I gave Quiet the order to give me sniper support.
    guards started shooting like crazy and then i noticed a enemy attack helicopter was in the area too. I threw a flare grenade for my helicopter to join in the mix. I basically caught myself in the middle of warzone at that point. I just decided to jump across some ruin stone platforms while being blasted by missiles, running past people getting sniped in the head and helicopters dueling it out. It almost looked cinematic how cool it was. Man, I love making AIs beat the stuffing out of each other senselessly.
     
  6. shadowray7

    shadowray7 Resident Maki Worshipper

    My first instinct was to try that actually. Kaz told me it wouldn't work. :/
     
  7. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    I did not see that coming at all, my jaw dropped when I saw the medic change into Big Boss. Suddenly it all made sense, Eli wasn't a genetic match to you because he wasn't your son, you're not even Big Boss. It did a good job of making us believe Ishmael wasn't real, because I was convinced ever since he disappeared from the ambulance.

    The "second half" of the game seemed pretty rushed to me, and I'm not sure if that's because of what happened with Konami but it really sucks. We had no final boss, and you suddenly unlock "The Truth" after Huey leaves the base, which really fucking sucks as a mission because it forces you to play through the hospital again with no changes in between the medic reveal and the ambulance crash. I think that could have been done so much better, I'd rather have Venom and Big Boss meet through some event and have it told through cutscenes.

    I was a bit annoyed at the ending until I listened to the Truth Records because they fill in everything that wasn't explained through the cutscenes. I think overall the game was great, but the story was really lacking and relied on the tapes to fill in the gaps, and I prefer the old style of being a story driven game with longer cutscenes. I feel really conflicted, on one hand it's a fantastic 10/10 stealth game with tons of replay value, on the other hand, I'm kind of disappointed in the story. At least having two Big Bosses explains how he was able to return in Metal Gear 2, since Solid only killed his phantom in Metal Gear.

    On the other side of "The Man Who Sold the World" tape during the part where Venom learns the truth, it has Solid Snake's mission name implying this took place in 1995 before the events of Metal Gear 1 :O

    I also like how they implied Ocelot was the one who killed Miller before the events of MGS1, them being on opposite sides makes much more sense now.

    I want Quiet back BibleThump it sucks that she leaves the game forever when you finish that mission. It made me pretty sad, now her theme has more meaning.

    What the fuck?! Why was this cut?! Eli leaves and you never hear about it for the rest of the game, this would have been perfect to set his storyline in motion. I have a feeling it was Konami's doing because Kojima included the unfinished product on the Blu-ray from the collector's edition. Anyone who doesn't watch it will have no idea what happens to Sahelanthropus or Eli/Psycho Mantis. I hope it gets finished and released some day, but there's almost no chance of that happening.

    Paz wasn't real after all, I guess it makes sense. I had my doubts since it was pretty clear that she blew up in Ground Zeroes, and Venom remembering it differently makes more sense after you find out his memories were altered.

    Remember when the doctor says you had pieces of bone and teeth in your body? Those are pieces of Paz after Venom shielded Big Boss from the blast.
     
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  8. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member

    I unlocked the medical bay after completing mission 7, but I also had the mission you talked about already completed. So I am not sure exactly what triggers it.

    I was surprised Paz was alive. I'm curious to find out how we go about restoring her memories. I guess I'll find out later on in the game.

    I still can't use that dog, I hope it grows up soon. I guess I just need to do more missions or something.
     
  9. vengvong

    vengvong Limit Breaker

    I really like the neat birthday scene they do at Mother Base on your birthday.
     
  10. Seth

    Seth Fame Had An IV

    Most of us probably have half of a year before we'd get to witness that
     
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  11. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    I just learned about this today :O A whole other chapter was planned?! This is much worse than one cut episode
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member

    Been a while so I thought I'd post an update. I have been doing tons of side ops, I was planning to do all of them before I proceeded with the missions, but at this rate it seems like there could be as many side ops as there are missions so I'm going to get back to the main mission path. My next one is mission 10. I was able to capture Quiet and the Dog, but I can't actually use them yet. I'm not sure if it's dependent upon beating a certain main mission or something because it seems like I've played long enough to use them.

    I really want to upgrade my Fulton but I need some vehicle specialist. I'm hoping to get that soon. I've been integrating soldiers to try and get them to tell me where their specialist is in each base I'm going to, apparently none of them are of the vehicle variety.
    Good to know, I recently got a tranq sniper, it's been very helpful, but the only downside is that it makes a lot of noise. It'd be a lot better if it had a silencer. I think I'm going to finally start proceeding with the main missions. 10 is next on my list.
     
  13. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    Someone found a hidden ending that unlocks when every nuke is disarmed online (probably never going to happen)

     
  14. Seth

    Seth Fame Had An IV

    before you start a mission the game usually tells you what kind of specialist can be found in that mission. just throwing that out there.
     
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  15. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member

    Oh, I hadn't noticed, thanks for pointing that out.

    I just thought I should post an update since it's been over a month since anyone has posted there. I just finished mission 20, I also went through most of the side ops that I a have access to (excluding the target practice ones since I couldn't complete them). Seems to be going okay so far, I still don't have access to DD which I find kind of odd. I'm pretty much only using Quiet. Seems like I'm starting to get the hang of it. I normally snipe every soldier along with quiet's help. For vehicles I try to fulton them, sometimes it takes a few tries to do it without being detected though. For most of the helicopters I avoid them but if I absolutely need to I use a rocket launcher to destroy them. Same goes for some of the tougher vehicles. For the heavy infantary units it seems like using a grenade launcher blasts off their helmets letting me either tranqualize them or kill them if I can't.

    I have 2/4 on most of my base platforms. Kind of hard getting the materials I need for them but it probably is the type of thing that is supposed to last the entire game. I'm not sure if I've overgrinded for the place I'm at or if this is just the typical placement. Most of my soldiers now are B rank or higher, and I have tons of A ranks, but I'm not sure if I even have any S ranks yet. I'm trying to upgrade weapons to get more attachments for my sniper, I'm still not sure I completely understand the concept of which attachments I can put on and which ones I can't, maybe they need to be in the same gun class or something? I'm pretty sure when I unlock upgrades for some guns and get new parts I can use those parts in the customization menu.

    I've been going back to the base now regularly after missions. There was one cutscene involving DD but I still don't have access to DD as a partner which I find kind of strange, I wonder if there's more I need to do in order to unlock him. [​IMG]

    Enjoying the game so far though, seems like it is going pretty well. I might be getting to the "second half" soon that Lavitz was talking about where the game tends to lose steam.
     
  16. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member

    Okay, so I got a lot farther in the game. Up to beating mission 45. Mission 45 spoilers:
    Seriously? She's gone forever? That sucks. D-Dog is good and all but Quiet was easily my favorite mission buddy. Mission 45 was a tough mission. I'm trying to see if I get fulton the tanks to get the optional requirement but it's kind of tough when some of the tanks kill me in one hit.

    I still haven't unlocked 46 yet, I'm guessing if I do enough side ops it will unlock eventually. I've done a ton of side ops, I'm also trying to get some of the other weapons unlocked like the level 7 Sniper.
     
  17. Lavitz

    Lavitz Inactive Staff Member

    she's DEAD
     
  18. Pointy

    Pointy (☞゚∀゚)☞ Staff Member

    unless it's in the game or stated by Kojima, I wouldn't say it's canon. It's kindof left to be open ended
     
  19. Sykikal

    Sykikal Very mentally stable admin Staff Member


    Are you certain she's dead? She's listed as MIA on staff layout. It's implied that the virus would kill her but we don't actually see a corpse, and I don't think the virus kills instantly. She could have changed her mind about using that cure or there could be something about her biology that we don't know. I mean there would be a much stronger case for Paz being dead but they somehow found a way to say she was alive so I assume they could do that for Quiet too if they wanted. [​IMG]
     
  20. Pointy

    Pointy (☞゚∀゚)☞ Staff Member

    Keep finding memento pictures and visiting Paz, it actually goes more in depth on what happened.
     

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